Posted by Editor on 21st June 2009 at 02:54 PM The demise of democracy in Salford has begun
On Thursday evening the Salford branch of the Labour Party, represented on the night by just 44 delegates, voted to continue their backing of our disgraced local MP, the dis-honoured Hazel Blears. On that night, those 44 delegates may have sealed the fate of the City at the next election when the 150,000 or so voters will have their say at the ballot box.
Perhaps those 44 delegates should contemplate a few elementary principles that some think they have forgotten:
The term Honourable, as given to members of Parliament, is defined as, amongst other things:
Admirable, worthy, praiseworthy, moral, principled, respectable, upright, proper.
The Prime Minister described the then titled Right Honourable Hazel Blears’s expense scandal (including her £13,000 tax avoidance manoeuvre) as “totally unacceptable” whilst former Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, Roy Hattersley went further, saying:
“It’s inconsistent to be a member of the Labour Cabinet if you consciously try to avoid paying taxes.”
He then told BBC’s Newsnight. “It’s not a matter for the House of Commons, it’s [a matter] for the Labour Party and the Labour Party stands for something better than this.”
It is particularly despicable to avoid paying those taxes which help to pay for such things as health, disability, policing, fire and public transport services which are so important to the constituents of Salford, especially when those concerned get paid a salary of around £168,000 per year PLUS expenses.
Why then did our dis-honoured MP survive the vote of no confidence, why did only 12 members in that room show the moral conviction we expect of those who purport to represent us?
After the meeting, which was held behind closed doors, John Cullen, Chairman of the Labour Party emerged and, reading from a script, spoke of Hazel Blears track record over the past twelve years as being “second to none”.
I’m not sure the people of Langworthy who lost their homes, or the campaigners trying and failing to keep Salford’s maternity unit open would necessarily agree, however I think the misguided point he was trying to make is that Hazel Blears should be judged on what she did BEFORE she was corrupted by the Parliamentary expenses system. This is saying you should judge someone on who they were before they committed a wrongdoing, well I’m sorry but that just doesn’t make sense, where would our judicial system be if we applied that principle to those in the dock? It has been said many times in recent weeks that if the ordinary person had been found doing what our MP’s have done, let alone Right Honourable Cabinet Ministers, they would have been sacked from their jobs and possibly even prosecuted for fraud through the criminal courts.
It would appear that politicians at every level are losing the ability to differentiate right from wrong, whether it is trying to blame “the system” or just hiding behind the “old boy” network, they need to realise what a very dangerous game they are playing. Democracy is a precious commodity and we flirt with it at our peril. Many hard working councillors, constituency workers and their families across the country are now paying a terrible price in the backlash of public anger and no doubt that would have been mirrored in Salford had there been by-elections here on June 4th.
So where do we go from here?
People must feel they can respect politicians at both national and local level, and whilst others are no doubt better placed to reform the parliamentary system, we the people of Salford, need our representatives to listen to us and that means local accountability. According to reports in the national press, TV and radio, not to mention our own SalfordOnline poll, the vast majority of those asked believe Hazel Blears should not continue as MP for Salford. The local Labour Party needs to rethink the decision of last Thursday or prepare to see the political map of this City rewritten at the next elections and not necessarily to the advantage of the other mainstream parties.
Comment by TomSO 29th June 2009
The interview with Mr Carvath is being edited now, it should be up on SalfordOnline by the end of the week. Tom |
Comment by Guest 29th June 2009
When will the interview with Richard Carvath be shown ?? |
Comment by TomSO 24th June 2009
Steve C - I've called Hazel Blears office and the Office Manager and PA has categorically denied that Hazel has bought a house on Chimney Pot Park. For your reference, Rosie Clayton who's Hazel's PA and the Constituency Office Manager said "We're pretty much 100% sure that Hazel hasn't bought a property on Chimney Pot Park". Of course this doesn't mean it didn't happen. Will investigate further. Also asked about the rumour that Hazel Blears is Tom Bloxham's (CEO of Urban Splash) brother in law. Again they said "The answer is categorically no." |
Comment by TomSO 24th June 2009
SalfordOnline are doing a video interview with Mr Carvath this weekend so you'll have the opportunity to scrutinise him first hand. If you'd like any particular questions asked, please direct them to newsdesk@salfordonline.com. Questions posted as comments will NOT be considered. |
Comment by steve c 24th June 2009
i wish someone like a daily paper would investigate the claims that crocodile tears blears and her family bought house on chimney pot park,the rumours going around salford are rife,or why doesnt she come on and deny it |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
I've seen Carvath refer to himself in the third-person a number of times before (I always find it creepy and weird when adults do that) but as much as I disagree with his views, he is at least articulate and this poster doing impressions of him is barely articulate. I think it may be a subtle troll, bigging Carvath up while simultaneously coming across as an ill-educated moron, but why bother? Carvath sends himself up. |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
You may jest but im worryd he could win aslong as hes a candidate hes gota chance, dont forget a low turnout will help him and nobodoys going to vite ofr Hazel are they!!! |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
Who cares if it's him or not he still about as electable as lamp post |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
Wow so somebodies studied his style to impersonate him call the cops i dont buy it mysefl i say hoaxers he always does his ownname on thr Advertuser. |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
I think your wrong and at least some of the comments have a "Carvathian" feel about them. |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
Web trails prove nothing for certain without additional evidence and the best hackers can fabricate them.And who's to say that the Lib Dems might not be behind that? They've got good IT people in Salford and their candidate has a lot to lose if Carvath becomes popular. Stranger things have happened in politics,its a dirty game. I for one don't think Carvath would do such a thing because for one he's not that stupid and for another its not his style, he detests anonymity because he's so fond of the sight of his own name! And another thing if he came on here wed be reading essays because he loves nothing more than going off on one for a milion words! |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
Every coment about him is 100% accurate (thats why they wont point out the inaccurate ones and just keep spouting in general)and as far as the BNP thing goes I said they have a few views in common, Richard does not like "multiculturalism" he wants us out of Europe, he's not fond of the Islamic religion (in fact he calls it evil). The censorship that he would like on what he calls "pornography" is way harsher than even the BNP and again thats a fact. |
Comment by Guest 23rd June 2009
Come on I've had a look at Richard Carvath's website and he'd probably be horrified at some of the things that have been written about him here. I won't be voting for him, I'll be voting Liberal Democrat, but comparing him to the BNP is way out or order. Most tories will agree with just about everything he stands for. I'd say he's a Thatcherite. A closet tory not a closet nazi boy! Just you wait if he wins he'll join the bloody tories. I think he's working with the tories to get a tory MP in Salford by the back door. The reason not to vote for him is because he's a tory boy in disguise, pretending to be Salford. I agree his lovelife has got nothing to do with this, I think such speculation just cheapens the important business of politics. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
As the administrators of this site can see the number of each IP that posts I wonder if all of the pro-Carvath posts come from the same one ? And I'm sure that a few local sites (such as the Lib Dem blogs) would have Mr Carvaths on record because if they matched now wouldn't that be a very Un christian thing to do ? |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
I assume that you've just invented the "am I stupid " bit because it's not on here that I can see ??
Can you please try and keep this sensible and perhaps you'd like to point out how many statements are not accurate exactly then so I can direct you to where he has posted them? I guess you'll just rant a bit without pointing out any inaccuracies because for Richard Carvath to make comments like homosexuals are perverts that should be criminalised (5 years was the sentence he suggested I think) or that teachers who teach sex education as its in the curriculum are "Grooming kids for anal abuse" (on his blog) Women are not "strong" enough to be in the police (Lib dem blog last week) or that the students that make a calender for charity (like the WI on in the film all covered up) where "prostitutes" can be read in the salford advertiser blog by him. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Am I stupid? R u going to start slagging me of as well?Luk at what yuve just said about the BNP,Richsrd Carvath is AGAINST THE BNP IT SAYS SO ON HIS WEBBITE!!! So your lyig big time admitt it pal!!! Ur makin up smears and the worst thing is yo wont eben put yor name to it ashamed of the lies i thinkso!!! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Unless your Richard Carvath himself how do you know that it's inaccurate??
In fact anyone can google his name and will read EVERY SINGLE point made by everyone here comes directly from him. If any single point is not accurate please feel free to point out exactly what and I'll happily direct you to where he's posted such views. The man is banned from some politician's blogs and has been warned on others for abusive posts. The only good thing is that Richard Carvath might split the BNP vote, their views on Muslims, multiculturalism and getting Britain back to the "good old days" are pretty close when you acctually read them. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Just about everything youv said about him is inaccuate.,Its prety obvius u hate his guts but why r u puttin words in his mouth what hes no said and givin it bulls** about what his views are?? Any on can read his website and see ur makng things up about him . Im labour all my life but not next time ihve had enough i might vote for this lad though he knwos wot this countr needs it needs moralsa nd families and good laws in short a god clean up from top to bottom,Carvatt amy be the man to do it her in Salfrod. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Women not suitable for the police, wanting to lock up homosexuals, accusing teachers that teach sex ed of "Grooming kids for anal abuse" calling models prostitutes and saying he'll only obey laws he agrees with is only a small number of his publicly declared viewpoints and you don't think they're extremist??? The newspapers and tv shows that he wants banned are normal parts of our lives and he's not extremist?
People that aren't married and having sex are "ant-moral" and evolution is "against gods teachings" etc aren't extremist ?? Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us ?? I'm sure if you live in Afghanistan under Sharia law they aren't extreme at all but in this country they're pretty extreme I'd say!!! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
I wouldnot say his views are "extremist.There strong yes, but loads wil agree with him on lots of things.He does a lto of gud stuff, he the only politician i know whos starrted a one man turf war with Salfrods brothel undrworld and a lots of women respect him for that! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
This is created in an attempt to divert attention from his extremist views and nothing more. The man calls models like Lucy Pinder "prostitutes" wants to get rid of equal rights groups and calls gay men "disgusting perverts" on his website. He calls his political opponents terms like diabolical pro-death or disgusting pro-gay and is probably too hardline for the BNP so who cares if he has a link on his website to a singer! Politically the man is stuck in the 1500s and would love us to return to church rule and it's his policies that should be looked at and not this other diversionary rubbish. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
If youve never read Hello or OK magazine you should. Richard Carvath may be a prospective parlimentary candidate but as far as half the populations concerned theyare much more interested in his love life than his politics, and all the more so if theres celebrity love interst like Sarah Whatmore. I think Sarah wuld be a realy good influence on him anyway, hes a hard man and he needs the feminine touch in his life, who better than her? |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Why is it relevant if Richard Carvath is attracted to a singer?? The fact that he's a blatant homophone and that he favors taliban like censorship on what we can read or view and his extremist views on how children should be educated (if it's in the bible its right) is in the public interest to know for a perspective candidate but his love life or even his fantasy love life is his own business. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
I see the attraction where Richard Carvath and Sarah Whatmore are concerned. On the face of it they are completely different personalities but underneath there's more in common than Richard might care to admit. It's very interesting that Richard is so opposed to pornography but that he approves of Sarah Whatmore, despite the fact that her early promotional material was really sexy shots like for FHM. I reckon he would whatever he says! They are both strong characters who aren't afraid to swim against the tide, Richard with politically incorrect policies and Sarah with a very personal album Time To Think which does not sell out to manufactured Kylie pop cliches. Although Sarah's not a Christian or a brunette I'd be amazed if Richard wouldn't go out with her. A lot of people forget that Richard is passionate about good singers and classy women and Sarah Whatmore is both. He has previously posted comments on her MySpace website under his own name. I'd say he definitely fancies her! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
We need a vote of no confidence |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
I guess that the party have given Hazel a certain amount of time to see if she can turn public opinion around and if she's still as detested as she is now then she'll never stand at the next election. I think we're about to see an all out charm offensive in the next few months to see if she can turn this around when people forget (no chance I hope) |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
RE:IS ANYBODY INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT?, have you ever tried going up against Salford Labour Party, I have two cousins both Labour councillors and they detest Blears with such hatred it is unbelieveable.I have heard them complain time annd time again about being made to vote for something they dont believe in.Unless the full memebrs can vote and not the 44,nothing will be done. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
t looks like Richard Carvath is intrested in doing somthing about it cos hes put his balls on thr block and said hell stand but the same goes for Norman Owen and MCFadden and any one else whos stands btw he shod bee so lucky connectons with Sara whatmore my arse i thinl hes justa fan probably |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Can we get back to the point of this article and have a reasoned discussion about the tactics of keeping Hazel Blear as our MP? I wonder how many times has someone been a cabinet minister one minute and then face a vote of no confidence by her local party the next. There are important issues raised in this article, let's not get sidetracked, we are being railroaded to have someone we don't want IS ANYBODY INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT? |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Is carvath connected to Sarah Whatmore? His blog links to her videos. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
A Lion that wants to ban homosexuality, "equal rights", what he sees as pornography (he actually names Sex in the City and The Sun in that class), wants to make sex education illegal and believes that evolution is an evil lie (god created man as he is and anything else goes against god's teachings). All Muslims that are reasonable are in his words "lying because Islam teaches them to be deceitful and they are at war with us". Anyone that has an abortion or doctors that perform them are "murderers" and that is his primary issue and anyone that wants free choice for the women is "Pro death"
And as if thats not enough he has publicly stated that god has ordained him to "crush" what he sees as "evildoers" and that he's only obey laws he morally agrees with! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Richard Carvath is nothing like how enemies try to caricature him (see below). I've known him on and off since Moorside High School in the late 80s. I wouldn't describe myself as a friend of his and I'm not a Christian but I know enough of him to know he's not some religious nutter. People who've never met him are trying to stereotype him on the web. In general life he does not go around quoting the Bible at everybody! If you google his name and find his social and political writings on the web you will see that he very rarely quotes the Bible even in the context of his political activism. British Christian political activism is so marginalised in the media that most people have no idea what British Christian political activists are like or how they operate. Most people think they must be like charismatic American TV evangelists but they are not. Carvath is absolutely nothing like any British media stereotype of Christians. In fact half the time I wonder if his approach to political activism is more influenced by Mossad, MI5 and Commando tactics than by anything in the Bible! Like him or not, he would be a very credible and heavyweight MP. Salford is already a laughing stock with Hazel Blears. Nobody will be laughing at Salford on account of Carvath if he is elected. For want of a better way of putting it, he is hardcore. Hazel Blears is characterised as a chipmunk, but Carvath is very much a lion and my guess is Salford would prefer a lion to a chipmunk. The big problem with all the rumours going round about Carvath at the moment is that he's been frozen out of the local media, especially the Salford Advertiser, so it's unsurprising that there's a lot of rubbish talked about him by people who have no idea what he's like as a person and who have only a very poor grasp of his politics. Let's be honest, most of the rubbish going round about him is started by political enemies. He deserves a fair hearing in the press. What chance a double page feature in the Salford Advertiser? And what chance of me getting back that tenner he owes me? No tenner, no vote! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Richard Carvath as our MP? We'd become the laughing stock of the country! No late night tv (it's all pornographic) The internet will be severely limited, teaching of sex education will be illegal and homosexuals will be locked up, women can't be in the Police or Army. Strangely enough our teachers don't like being accused of grooming our kids for anal abuse, Muslims tend to object to being told they belong to "An evil" religion and glamor models aren't that happy about being called prostitutes by him either! We'd be better off with TheBNP , even they think Richard Carvath is an extremist! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
I have heard Richard Carvath use biblical quotes more than once. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Richard Carvath is an enigma. I have heard the saying attributed to him that "virginity is an asset which holds its value well" - but whether it is truly his remark or that of a subtle enemy, I cannot say. But I do have this on good authority: many a woman has remained be-knickered in his presence, though she would rather not. Personally I find the virgin claims to be rather a stretch of the imagination, but the man himself neither confirms nor denies the rumours, and if women he has had then they are most discreet! |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
carvath is a christian but hes no bible basher,believe me and i say that as not a pal of is A lot people think they now what he must b like if hes a christin but like i say he gets on with allsorts of people yu woodnt expect and hes not constantl going of about jesus and the bible at all whn you meet him, Peple who think tey dont like him are serprised hes not the steryotpe christan and hes nice to meet him, even harf his enemys end up liking him. |
Comment by Guest 22nd June 2009
Lord Nelson put a telescope to his blind eye and said "I see no ships",Gordon Brown closed his good eye and said "I see no Blears". |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
Last thing we want is another Bible thumper like Richard Carvath telling us how to should live.We have one already and from past experience,they never practise what they preach. |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
Hazel Blears is a lame duck. She is unelectable in Salford. The next General Election could well see an independent hit the jackpot in Salford. There's already one officially declared independent candidate. The contest for Salford and Eccles is now wide open. I wouldn't be surprised if obscure candidate Richard Carvath actually manages to pull off a major electoral upset despite being frozen out of the mainstream local media. Don't laugh, it could happen! That guy is a lot more capable than people give him credit for and he talks a lot of politically incorrect stuff that many ordinary people can't get enough of. Don't be fooled by his lack of media presence so far. He is a crafty bastard. Carvath is getting known by word of mouth despite the best efforts of the press to suppress him. I might stick a wedge on Carvath to win, it could be my pension pot sorted! |
Comment by jerry 21st June 2009
Unfortunately Iain there will be 12 months until a General election, by which time everyone will have forgotten, and vote money-grabbing Blears in again. |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
Any truth in the rumour that Blears is related to the Ceo of Urban Splash,Tom Bloxham?.Not just talk but actual facts. |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
The Scottish Presbyterian Taliban that run England will not let us have an election.Nobody voted for Brown,he stole the position when Blair deserted the sinking ship.Brown knows that calling an election would put him out of office and he would lose. |
Comment by Iain Lindley 21st June 2009
It is not the Salford & Eccles Constituency Labour Party that Hazel should be answering for her actions - it is the people of Salford as a whole. They will now get their opportunity to pass judgement on Hazel and our other failing Labour MPs at a General Election. This is why we need a General Election now. |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
I too am still waiting for a reply from Blears after two years and twenty emails and ten letters,this arrogant woman does not even have the decency to reply. |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
Wel said,well said,Blears sold us the people of Salford out over Langworthy, I would like to know how much she made from that deal. |
Comment by Guest 21st June 2009
"Blame the System",these MP's knew the system inside out and knew it to be corrupt,but they still abused it.If you know something is wrong and still do it,thats against the law.As for John Cullen,I have never heard anyone rant about goodness like he did for Blears.Everyone on that committee knew she did wrong and still voted for her,which can only mean one thing,they must be corrupt also.
What hold has Blears on these members,lets be honest here,she goes on about what she has done for Salford,Just what has she done except sell the people of Langworthy down the river.Every petition she stands on the line for fails (Except she gets her photo taken).We lost the special baby care unit as another example of Blears failure to do something for Salford.She goes on about regeneration and media city.These are nothing to do with her and would have happend even without her.I have wrote to Hazel Blears some 15 times over the last twelve months,even enclosed self addressed envelopes and still no reply from the Ginger Whinger.Salford Labour deserve to lose their seat in the next election.but why are all these MP's waiting until the next election to stand down,because if they all stood down now there would have to be an election and Labour would lose.I have never know such hostility toward such an MP as there is to Blears and the Hard face woman still smiles at the camera. |
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