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Posted by Editor on 10th August 2009 at 04:06 PM
Salford Local History - Cross Lane - Part 4 of 4
Words and Audio by Tony Flynn
Filmed and Edited by Tom Rodgers

In this our final look at Cross Lane we see The Carlton Cinema, the last purpose built luxury cinema in Salford much loved by the locals, the Cross Lane Barracks, once the headquarters of The Lancashire Fusiliers and later the T.A., also the scene of many dance evenings.

Then, Cross Lane Railway Station, now long demolished. Older viewers may recall the sight of young children being evacuated to safety at the start of World War Two.

Finally, The Ship Pub possibly the most famous pub in Salford, popular with foreign seamen from the nearby Salford Docks and the local colourful characters, the pub was often stated as being famous from Seedley to Shanghai, another Salford landmark sadly gone.

If you've enjoyed this series, why not let us know what other local history videos you'd like to see on SalfordOnline?

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by jeannief ( member )  30th June 2011
For andrewbrannick........ do you still have your photograph of the Moores Luxury Loaf stand at an exhibition,? i am really interested.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  31st August 2010
Was it called Abdul's cafe?, I think the Camilleri's family owned the cafe later, old man Charlie with his trilby on.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  31st August 2010
does anyone remember abs on trafford road used to sell cabbage rolls real name was international restaurant corner of trafford road and tatton street facing cop shop spud

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  11th August 2010
Well done that man, I couldnt for the life of me remember it, however Bellamys crumpets at the top of Church street, you remember that one? and while we are on the subject of food , Al Reids sausage factory down Fredrick Road.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  11th August 2010
Royles bakery, I worked there as a van lad

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  11th August 2010
What was the name of the bakery in Salford on Broad Street, just past the Horseshoe pub near to Nursery street?,

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  10th August 2010
My Mum Janet worked part time at Moores as a van cleaner in the 1960s,I always remember her fetching a malt loaf home to try it was like a "brick" don't think they sold many, Didn't do her any harm though she's still going at 91 years young! Tony"3"

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  9th August 2010
Does anyone know how to make the videos larger ie full screen? Thanks

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  15th July 2010
Been out of Salford for a while and just found the site, some great memories, got a feeling I will be on here all night, Moores bakery, Cross Lane, Totem Pole, Weaste Cemetery, local interviews everything is here, good work to everyone involved.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  13th July 2010
Moores Luxury Loaf fed more waifs and strays in "Hany Park" than all the charities and "Sunshine Corners" put together. All you had to do was go round the back of the bakery in the evening when the fresh bread was cooling down in the back shed,sneak in and help yourself, No one ever got caught cos half the kids dads or uncles worked there.The best was the "Baton" a long uncut loaf, we used to hollow out the middle and fill it with chips and scratching usually from Mrs Jones on Florin St.Our Kid.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  12th July 2010
remember the orange and blue dotted grease proof paper they were wrapped in,who did a similar loaf called the twinny?

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  12th July 2010
Any one remember Moores "Wonderloaf" or one they did called 7-11, seven rounds of thick bread and eleven of thin bread, it may have been circular!, Royles had a bakery top of Church Street, can't remember that doing much though.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  12th July 2010
I remember the early morning 'available lads' queue looking for some cash by doing the drivers lifting and shifting on the round. Eventually you got a regular slot with the same driver, hard graft at a young age but sweet reward when the cash hit your pocket!

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  10th July 2010
brought back many memories,had my haircut at Eric's, suits made at Tom Witts, collars washed and starched at the Chinese laundry next to the Waverley pub on Eccles new road, happy Day's

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  10th July 2010
Nobody got on with Fred Gee, a right misery, used to chuck the kids off the loading bays when they tried to earn a few bob unloading the empty vans, happy days though. Great set of videos by the way.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  9th July 2010
I drove for Moores bakery in the early 70s. A great time. Full of characters. Drove down Cross lane every morning on the way to Northwich. Often got stuck when the Swing Bridge opened. I remember Fred Gee. We never got on.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Tony Flynn ( member )  24th February 2010
Andrew, I have left a message for you on the members site regarding Moores Bakery.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by andrewbrannick ( member )  23rd February 2010
Does anyone remember one of the many Salford characters, he went by the name of "Piccolo Pete", he used to come into the Grapes with his piccolo and play tunes for the customers, he was brilliant. There doesn't seem to be many characters around these days, Pete was a real eccentric.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by andrewbrannick ( member )  23rd February 2010
Message for Tony Flynn. I remember Freddy Gee, he was one of my dads drinking buddies. thanks for the reminder. did you manage to get hold of your brothers photo of the van. I have found a photo of the moores luxury loaf exhibition stand. How do I post it on the forum????

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  4th February 2010
sir colin campbell pub on regent rd a wilsons pub i presume i should imagine before that it was a walkers and homfrays pub,the colin campbell was the first pub my dad went in age 16 about 1950 jim candlish

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  4th February 2010
does anybody remember the colin campbell pub in salford would like more infomation.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  3rd February 2010
The name of the Moores "Luxury Loaf " van driver who had the unfortunate luck of having Mike Flynn as "helper" more like minder and shotgun rider was Johhny Seddon who the delivered all round Eccles and Salford, and Flynny considering he was only paid about 10 bob a day used to have a extremely large amount of cigs on a Saturday night for sale, and he never smoked? One of lifes little mysteries that.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  3rd February 2010
My findest memory of Parkers Chippy was of after spending a good night out in the Red Lion on Chapel St smoking and drinking ( allowed in them days )We decided to have a bit of supper in there, no sooner had we finished eating it when it kicked off with two gangs of local thugs, chips,fish and blood was everywhere, and with the arrival of Salfords finest from the Crescent, we just walked out, we did not want to trouble the staff over such a trival matter as the bill, when there was an obvious need of an Ambulance.I still kick myself after all these years for not ordering extra bread

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Tony Flynn ( member )  2nd February 2010
Andrew, hate to blow my own trumpet but I have a picture of Parkers chippy in the Cross Lane book, as for Moores Bakery, I think every kid in Hanky Park worked there at one time myself included, unloading empty bread trays. My other brothers Michael and Peter worked there for a long time, my brother Michael has a photo of himself and a van driver(can't think of his name) in the slanted bays, Peter worked with Norman Foster and the gaffer/chucker out was called Freddie Gee I shall try and track the photo down. Hope you enjoy SalfordOnline.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by andrewbrannick ( member )  2nd February 2010
I would just like to add a further comment from my last post Re. Parkers chip shop. Back in the 1950's my Father worked as a Bread van salesman for Moores Luxury Loaf on Fitzwarren St. Does anyone have a photo of the bakery showing the vans parked in their angled bays. Please lat me know. From Andrew.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  2nd February 2010
Can anyone remember Parkers chip shop on the corner of cross lane and broad st. My Father was the landlord of the Grapes. Me and my brother used to get our chips from there. I think Mr Parkers daughters opened their own chip shops in Stretford. From Andrew.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  25th November 2009
Love that expression, "finding things on the docks", I think we now what you mean. I can't remember Lowe's sweetshop though, were was it on Cross lane?.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  24th November 2009
glenn lowe does anyone remember my dads sweet shop on cross lane in the fifties, he was a bit of a lad, finding things on the docks but he was always glad to pass them on for a small fee, does anyone remember an old family friend called bernard shields has he any relatives alive in salford

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  7th November 2009
Have you had a look at Tony Flynn's book, Cross Lane?, it is excellent and gives loads of details about the pubs and people of the area with articles on the market, shops, factories, and other great bits of information. You can buy it from Peel Park Library on The Crescent Salford, it costs about £5 but is worth every penny.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  6th November 2009
I need to know if any dog shows were held in the yard behind the Butchers Arms, if dogs were bought and sold at Salford cattle market. I have visted the Edens and Henshall graves in the Roman Catholic section of Weaste Cemetary ( Peter Eden 1826 - 1889)Thank you for all your excellent work. Many thanks yorkshireroots@hotmail.co.uk

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  6th November 2009
Brilliant Tony Flynn I need help ( willing to pay) for any details on Peter Eden,& parents Edward & Prudence and nephew John Henshall. Butchers Arms was their home for a period, moving eventually to Spring Bank, Sandy Lane I have his will, birth cert, he was a munufacturing chemist employing men from various workhouses. He bred dogs, pigs and judged themall over the UK including those owned by Queen Victoria, the Prince ConsortThanks yorkshireroots@hotmail.co.uk

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  17th October 2009
re no 4 cross lane my mam and her family lived at 105 cross lane ,dot feeley

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  17th October 2009
You don't know how right you are. The Ambassador was my local cinema,just down the road from where we lived on Bolton Road. We used to go about three times a week and on Saturday and Sunday it was often standing room only. But back to the name thing, I'm just glad it wasn't Olympia or Scala.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  15th October 2009
Alan, Just think if your mum went to a diffrent picture house your middle name could be Ambassador!. Great story though.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  15th October 2009
I too have just discovered this web site and I am sad to to discover that the Carlton cinema has ceased to exist, at least physically. To a certain extent it still exists in me. When my mother was expecting me in 1943 she was working as an usherette at the Carlton and the manager of the time offered to buy her the best pram on the market if she would name me after the cinema. My middle name has been Carlton ever since. Alan Carlton

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  17th September 2009
Sorrry about this being a bit late but I have just discovered your site, I picked up one of your cards in the local library. Can I just say how interesting it is and how much I have enjoyed the local history videos of Salford and Eccles, I certainly look forward to more of the same. Ada Crompton.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  3rd September 2009
Hi Jean, The photos that I mentioned are at Peel Park Local History Library on The Crescent. Incidentally Tuesday was the 70th anniversary of children from Salford being evacuated to safety and a plaque was unveiled at Sainsburys Supermarket on Regent Road, we did a video story of it and it is available to look at by going to Salford News. Hope you are one of the children in the photos at the library. Tony Flynn.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  3rd September 2009
tony would love to see a ccopy of the evacuees you mentioned in nO 4 Cross lane... I wonder could I be one of the children???I can remember being evacuated... jean wood nee cully

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  25th August 2009
I remember Flynn'y managing the Carlton Club when he used to put on local bands in the late 1980's,lots of decent bands on, a few good cheap night in there. Does anybody else remember it?.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  24th August 2009
Funny I don,t remember that, and I was that chap!.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  24th August 2009
i remember when tony flynn worked at the carlton cinema as a trainee projectionist.[think it was the last job he had]

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  22nd August 2009
Watched the Cross Lane videos with great interest, how about doing one on Regent Road?, for starters you had Lande's Store, George Glasses, The Fox, Peeping Tom, The Library, The Swimming Baths, Woolworths, Kings Cinema, Health Clinic, Smiths Toy Shop, Liebermans, The Star, Colin Campbell the list is endless. In fact Regent Road has fared worse than Cross Lane we have no landmarks to guide us by and it was a really busy and popular road in Salford.Just a thought. Joe Johnson.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  21st August 2009
You were lucky to get out of the Salisbury, Trafford and Clowes in one piece, what an area. Does anybody remember when The Salisbury pub had a Miss Salisbury competition and a bloke who used to do a drag act in there won it!, he was even on the Salford Pageant Float.Most stories about The Clowes and The Trafford are unprintable,it would make a great piece though if you could make it like the Cross Lane one. Just remembered the horse trough outside the Trafford seen a few blokes chucked in that.Jimmy Mallon.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  20th August 2009
Great to hear about the Ship again, it used to be our first port of call after the Salisbury & Clowes, there was always a good turn on there. Me and my old mates used to sail with Manchester Liners,up the St Lawerence, past Toronto, and into the great lakes. If anyone out there remebers Mike Mcguire, Mickey Rooney, Rod "squad"O'Conner, Sailor John Done, and Macca McQuillan, send them my best now that I have re-located to Little Hulton, and the legs are not what they were. "Crusher McGee"

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  20th August 2009
Eric Stanton's was the barbers shop, he used to cut the hair of the Salford Rugby league players and of the artistes appearing at The Palace and Salford Hippodrome, he also had an advert on at The Carlton Cinema with a judge ordering you to get your hair cut at Stantons!.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  16th August 2009
barbers called stantons went by the name of stans next to the carlton

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  14th August 2009
I remember a strongwoman act at The Salford Hippodrome in the 1950's her act consisted of ripping up telephone books and other feats of strength, her name escapes me but recently she was on the Paul O'Grady show recently, she must be in her eighties.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  13th August 2009
It was in the Ship hotel that I first fell in love, her name was on all the posters advertising Salfords first glamourous female weight-lifter,( 1967) her finale was always to rip up telephone directories,then challange any man in the place to arm wrestle,she always won.Her name was Josie Gill, but she never even noticed me, standing there with a pint of mild in my hand trying to look the part. Dicky Tyrer

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  13th August 2009
Can anyone help settle an argument that's been raging for years : Remember the gents hairdressers next to the Carlton. The owner always aspokea likea dat, as if if was Italian, he was the first one in Salford to do the Tony Curtis look, it was always full on Saturday afternoons with teddy boys getting a D.A. ( if only I could now )Anyway what was his name? I say it was Toni, and the rest of the boys from the Red Cow reckon it was Louis.Please some one put them out of their misery,

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  13th August 2009
Hands up those who remember the police phone box opposite The Ship Pub, I have seen coppers drag drunken sailors in and lock them in there for their own safety, the coppers not the sailors!.For some rason the Norwegians and the Yanks seemed to cause the most trouble probably because they had the most cash.Fred Gee.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  13th August 2009
Well done Tony for stirring my old memory bank. I used to drink in the ship on a regular basis in the "good old days" I remeber one night when a group of Norwegian sailors were heckling the band who were playing there that night. The band were known as The Don Mack five, anyway Don just jumped off stage and chinned one of the sailors, that led to a free for all, funnily enough, when the Police turned up, no one could remeber seeing a thing. I have seen a lot worse in there but I had better not start on them.Norman Foster.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  12th August 2009
You could do a series on the pubs on Cross Lane alone.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  12th August 2009
Many thanks for a stroll down memory lane I have enjoyed every minute of it,doing my courting in The Carlton,I recall the dances at The Drill Hall,The Ship was considered a bit risky for certain women!, I used to drink in The London and Northwest on Cross Lane which had a lovely concert room upstairs or a quiet drink in The Falcon. Yes it is hard to imagine all the shops and pubs that were there not to mention the amazing market,have you seen the state of the new one on the Precinct it is shocking. Once again thanks for the memorys and I'm certain that I speak for many other Salfordians as well. Best Wishes Lily Hamer.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  11th August 2009
The black clad cowboy was indeed Lash LaRue famous for his bullwhip and his surly manner,he achieved fame later in life by teaching Harrison Ford how to use a bullwhip for his role in the Indiana Jones films!. Remember Dick daring of the Canadian Mounted Police, Flash Gordon and Ming the Merciless or the three Stooges, brilliant times.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  10th August 2009
Can any of your readers remeber going to the Carlton Saturday matinee in the late 50s. My all time hero was a cowboy who went by the name of "Lash Laroo", he never had a gun but would bring the black hats down with a crack of the whip, he also wore black clothing which at the time was unusual, because all the good guys wore white. Ahead of his time.

Report as offensive or innapropriate Comment by Guest  10th August 2009
Stanley Gartside, there is a name from the past, he was a real character, camp as a row of tents but really funny.

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